New Sidefight! - SOMESONGS

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New Sidefight! - SOMESONGS

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Dear SongFight Peeps,

Sam (Lunkhead) and I (Frankie Big Face) have been working on a new songfighting competition called Somesongs. We named it after Jefff’s (ADD Music) old website, where people post songs and people would rate them very simply as “Good,” “Okay,” or (gasp) “Bad.” Scores were generated based on a simple, yet elegant, formula: Good=10, OK=5, and Bad=0. After at least five people rated your song, you could tell all your friends and your mom that your song has a 9.17 on somesongs!

We are writing to ask you to consider participating in this inaugural competition. But first, let us answer all of your questions.


Why do we need another songfighting competition? Don’t we already have enough?

Of course! But this one is different. For starters, there are no eliminations. The winner will be determined by having the highest average song score and everyone who makes it to the end will have a new six-song EP to share with their friends (and mom).


Okay, what else is different?

I’m glad you asked. There will still be five judges song evaluators, but they will be anonymous members of the Song Fight community. They will post on the boards as Mr. Pink, Mr. Blue, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Orange, and Mr. Brown. (Mr. White will be a pre-arranged alternate for when a judge flakes has an unexpected issue.) Once the competition concludes, their true identities will be revealed.


I’m intrigued. Go on.

Songs will be evaluated as “good,” “okay,” or “bad” using a common rubric with six equally weighted categories:
  • Lyrics - We assume your song will have words and they will be related to the given title.
  • Songcraft - Is your song crafted in a way that is aesthetically pleasing?
  • Performance - How good was your performance?
  • Production/Arrangement - How good is the production and/or arrangement?
  • Execution of the Challenge - Yes, there will be challenges. More on that later…
  • Overall Impression - This is where the judges can let their genre bias flag fly freely.
An overall song score will be generated by adding up the judges’ scores and dividing them by the number of categories and judges. Or something like that. I made some fancy spreadsheets.


Equally weighted?! But I value lyrics really highly and I don’t care at all about production.

Yep. And the next person doesn’t care about lyrics at all. That’s why they’re all weighted equally.


Okay, tell me about these “challenges.”

We’re going to try something a little different. Instead of saying “No guitars” or something like that, we’re going to use Brian Eno’s Oblique Strategies cards for the challenges. These cards are pretty vague, so there may be some disagreement about how well the challenge is executed, but we find they spur creativity and we want to give it a try. A typical challenge might be “Reverse” or “Gardening, Not Architecture.” It will probably be fun. Probably.


I’m sold! How does it work and when do we start?

We want to do this in the fall to avoid conflicting with that other big songwriting competition that we all know and love.

We are thinking of a nine-day cycle of six days writing/recording and three days listening. We will NOT post the new title and challenge until after the results have been posted. This is to give you a little break and to encourage more listening (and reviewing, if you like) of the songs.

Here’s what we’re thinking in terms of a timeline:
  • Round One: September 30-October 8
  • Round Two: October 9-October 17
  • Round Three: October 18-October 26
  • Round Four: October 27-November 4
  • Round Five: November 5-November 13
  • Round Six: November 14-November 22
After each round, we’ll post the results in order of average song score from highest to lowest, along with the overall standings. It might look something like this:

Week 3 Results:
  • 1. Lunkhead 9.17
  • 2. JBB 8.33
  • 3. Glenn Case 8.33
  • 4. ADD 7.78
  • 5. BSS 7.24
  • 6. Frankie Big Face 0.00
Overall Standings:
  • 1. JBB 9.02
  • 2. Lunkhead 8.89
  • 3. ADD 8.62
  • 4. BSS 8.34
  • 5. Glenn Case 7.42
  • 6. Frankie Big Face 0.87

How will we listen to the songs?

We’re going to post the songs on Soundcloud and then embed them in a review thread.


Where do I sign up?

No sign-up, no Google forms, no binding contracts. You just submit a song when it’s time. We’re hoping for 15-20 participants this first time around.

And that’s it! We’ll try it out and see how it goes. Tweak as necessary. Sam and I have agreed to be judges this first time around and we already have three more judges tentatively lined up.

If you know (or think) you are going to participate, it would be great to know in advance so we can be sure our judges aren’t going to be overwhelmed by too many songs. (Wishfully thinking, we may want to cap it at 20.) Conversely, we don’t really want to run this with three artists - that would be sad.

Now let’s write SOME SONGS!
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Can I share my 6 Song EP with my friends' moms?
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ujnhunter wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:13 am
Can I share my 6 Song EP with my friends' moms?
I mean, as long as your friends' moms are down for it. I don't want a #metoo situation on our hands.
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I shared a six-song EP with your mom last night
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EP is short for "electric penis"
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ujnhunter wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:13 am
Can I share my 6 Song EP with my friends' moms?
If (and only if) your friends' moms have got it going on.
How do you do, fellow kids?

Listen to some songs at Somesongs
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Stacey's mom has got it going on, I hear.

Any possibility to stagger this so that it doesn't overlap with SpinTunes, or at least is on the gap-week for SpinTunes? I'd be potentially interested but the overlap schedule is tough for writing new songs at least for me. That or I'd hop in late and resign myself to failure for a few early rounds (but more songs made). Might get more players that way too, potentially. LMK either way, and cheers.
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Just write a song that fits both Spintuines & SOMESONGS. Double EXPOSURE! ;)
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I want to do this! I played a song for my daughter today that is one of my more recent songs and it's 14 years old.
Johnny gotta get back up on'nis horse.
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micosaudad wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:51 pm
I want to do this! I played a song for my daughter today that is one of my more recent songs and it's 14 years old.
Johnny gotta get back up on'nis horse.
Excellent! Time to write SOME SONGS!
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Siebass wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:39 am
Stacey's mom has got it going on, I hear.

Any possibility to stagger this so that it doesn't overlap with SpinTunes, or at least is on the gap-week for SpinTunes? I'd be potentially interested but the overlap schedule is tough for writing new songs at least for me. That or I'd hop in late and resign myself to failure for a few early rounds (but more songs made). Might get more players that way too, potentially. LMK either way, and cheers.
Hey Siebass. Sorry - just saw this post. We're going to stick to our schedule. Do what ujnhunter says and double-dip!
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frankie big face wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:40 pm
Do what ujnhunter says and double-dip!
This. How many Song FIght! entries have "coincidentally" included a Nur Ein title in their lyrics, when those contests are running concurrently?

Just make sure you find a clever way to shoehorn the current Spintunes, Somesongs, AND Song Fight! titles and challenges into your song.
How do you do, fellow kids?

Listen to some songs at Somesongs
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