How is That Yummy Bread Spelled? ('Brioche, Actually' revs)

Bolio · Post by **Bolio** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:43 am

Did some work on cover art then realized YELLOW IS BORTWEIN'S fight

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:04 am

I find this picture utterly utterly disturbing. On many many levels.

j$

Bolio · Post by **Bolio** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:08 am

j$ wrote:utterly utterly disturbing

Didn't quite expect that kind of response, but thanks!!?!

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:15 am

Don't worry, I think it's great. Just very very disturbing. But then again i find Brioche disturbing.

Bolio · Post by **Bolio** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:24 am

j$ wrote:I find Brioche disturbing.

Bad Experience? I suggest you contact the Sympathy Goat. He helped one Chap with his fear of Scotch Eggs if you remember?
Talk About Your Feelings

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:35 am

I will be working through my deep-seated fear of brioche in this very fight

"Looks like a nipple or a spot that needs squeezing ..." ('Brioche, Actually' by Sarf)

j$

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:22 pm

Adam D - nice voice - banjo wins novelty points from some but not me. Where is the bass? very nice song, with words that don't grab me enough to concentrate - and it's very pleasant. But WHERE IS THE BASS?

Cow Exchange - great opening. ah this is a great song. Worthy winner. At some point write some good words for this (i.e. with a different title I guess) then release it as yr first single on a major label. Nice job. Winner. ( i don't like the very last line, mind)

Johnny Cashpoint - is me, the sound of Sarf Lahnnnndun. trust me to pick a three song fight to experiment with what makes a song 'catchy'! Hey at least I'm guaranteed a top 5 finish ....

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:58 pm

Niv's Review Paragraph

As I expected, Brioche is the shortfight. 3 songs enter. 1 song leaves (victorious, that is). First up, the Cow Exchange. No, they didn't just go into a rap break about Brioche. That was a bit allover the place. It's was okay but not thrilling. Next, Mr. Dachis. Could be a little nutty, a little fruity. Brioche would be the world's worst girl's name. Oh, this is dragging and getting repetitive. Almost 4 minutes of this. Nice try for seriousness from Brioche but that just didn't work. Lastly, hey it's J$. The new rock anthem J$ continues. Damn that was short. I was digging that but it vanished in a blink. Dammit what to vote for? Dachis definitely takes #3 because I disliked that alot. Hmmm, I dig Cow Exchange's line about Freedom Rolls but the rap part kills it for me. I'm voting for J$ because it's the only song of the three that I'm willing to listen to in its entirety. On to God & Blood!!!

Kapitano · Post by **Kapitano** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:23 pm

Just a few reviews because I'm too lazy to do all the things I should be doing.

Adam Dachuis
I like the banjo, and not just because it made me think of 'Swamp Thing' by The Grid.

The mixing is good - all the instruments clearly audible, without fighting each other.

Not sure what genre to call this.

The voice sounds rougher than the instruments - maybe you like poished instrumentation but 'natural' voice?. Sounds like you've got some good synths (are they samples or physically modelled?) and some decent recording/mastering software.

It could be a minute shorter. Sounds like a lot of work went into it.

The Cow Exchange
You've got influences coming out of your ears - The Beach Boys, Breeder, early Pop Will Eat Itself, maybe a touch of the Lemonheads.

Just very competent. Easily the winner of this little fight, and probably the winner of one three times the size

Johnny Cashpoint
Um. I see you've borrowed the Beta Band's drumkit. Like my own entry this week, it's more of an experiment than a song.

Hear a remixed version at SFUK2?

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:00 pm

cow Exchange:
well, right off, it's a good mix, I think. Yeah, I like this. I like your voice too, it has a barenaked qualities to it, without driving me nuts by thinking you are they. I like the cool chord changes...oh, sounds like you got Puce doing the bridge part! Very good sound, possible vote... of course in so tiny a fight, they all are!! Those drums sound like a roland kit, or some programmed thing... that's my only beef, they are well programmed, but it detracts for my senses. Sometime, I'd drum on a tune like this for you.

Adam Dachis:
Very nice, very good mix, yeah, great sound. I suspect that banjo bit is a loop or sample of some kind? This is the thing, I think this sounds great, and the production, as fore mentioned, but I question the performances. I hope this, with the exception of the drums I suppose, (although I don't know why it's generally accepted that fake drums are ok, ) well, it's all so well done, that I find myself not trusting it. This may seem a little weird, but I'm not know for being otherwise. I don't always have this bias , Its just what popped into my head when I listened... the idea that it seemed a bit fake. Not the lyrics or vocals mind you, I think that's the character of the tune. When I ignore my bias against the seemly sequenced (for lack of a better term right now) back tracks, I think it's a decent song, and I certainly look forward to hearing more of your stuff.

Johnny Cashpoint:

Funny, I KNEW I was gonna like this one this week. I love it. It's got that evil sound, the mix is deadly. I love the drum grooves on this. Catchy melody part. Reminds me of The Specials in a way... although they rarely sounded this ....dark. Possible vote.

Gotta go...band is here for practice, but I liked this fight...short, sweet, and really good.

Liechty · Post by **Liechty** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:50 pm

reviewing the easies:

adam whatever - that loop is annoying already. the vocals are already annoying. i quit 30 seconds in. terrible.

cow Xchange - i dont know how rocking you can get with pastries. probably a reason there aren't as many fighters in this one. good job rocking out the brioche. this poppy stuff is a thin line to rock on. oh wow, it was listenable until you have the fast rockrapp crapppp. well at least i learned how to say it , actually.

CA$Hpoint - hating the vocals for some reason. when you were making this didnt you realize that its simply obnoxious? i mean really. its bouncing around like a jackass. i want to tell this song to relax.

cow wins a lame fight. thats what im thinking.

LockSmithDon · Post by **LockSmithDon** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:01 am

The Cow Exchange
+ Very catchy
+ I'm a fan of this genre and you serve it well
| I like the circus music melodies, but with my setup (laptop/headphone) they drowned out the vocals
| Cliche-o-rama

Adam Dachis
+ The piano parts work
+ The production was good ... crisp & clean
- I don't think the contrast between your voice and the banjo works well
- The verses tend to get monotonous since many are sang in a very similar way
- I expected more out of the chorus

Johnny Cashpoint
+ It was a short song, but because it packed a lot of textures, the length worked well
+ Absolutely NOTHING monotonous about it
| It sounds like "Brioche Players"
| I'd like to try some bread that tastes like this song sounds

Gonna go with The Cow Exchange on this little fight with Johnny a close second.

Edge of LA · Post by **Edge of LA** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:41 pm

Cow Exchange: Is that Puce rappin for you?

Plat · Post by **Plat** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:05 pm

Edge of LA wrote:Cow Exchange: Is that Puce rappin for you?

Definitely; to my great delight, Puce lends his mad (no pun intended) rapping skillz on this track, trading sleep for kegfuls of consonental crispness.

Without that track I probably wouldn't have had the dedication to finish a song for this week. Thanks Puce!

I accept all lyrical blame. Reviews coming later tonight, giving time for my fatigued ears to readjust.

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:06 pm

eye likes de dairy-creature-trade one.

Plat · Post by **Plat** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:20 am

3-song fight, and still variety? Neat!

J$ / Sarf
Coolie: Novelty points for crazy vocal processing, reminding me of a HInc track for some reason. Different (but Webster-approved) pronunciation of "brioche". Crazy (and dirty, or is that just my mind?) lyrics. I like the groove, seems kind of spy-musicy. A stranger electronic style, but there's still substance to the instrumentation and lyrics to hold balance. Favorite lyric: "spot that needs squeezing".
Frowny: Somewhere between the song length and the style, I'm not left remembering much besides "boy, that was weird". My roommate made me turn it off after repeating 20 times or so.
Misc: After repeating the song a few times, I'm compelled to squeeze everything in sight. Kind of like how hours of Carmageddon compel me to drive left of the yellow line (in the USA).

Adam Dachis
Coolie: Banjo novelty points. I like the light drum/bongo samples. Lighter song isn't hurting my fatigued ears. Great voice, probably the strongest link in the tune. Clear and interesting-sounding lyrics, from what I can remember.
Frowny: Instrumentation isn't too varied (particularly percussion and banjo lines). Piano is more interesting, but doesn't make up for the remaining population of loop city. Seems like a lot of verses and no chorus, giving the same intensity to the whole song.
Misc: My advice (however unreliable) would be to listen to the song with your vocals muted, and ask yourself "Is this still interesting to me? Can the average listener still identify when I switch verse/choruses? ", possibly recording varied lines in place of your loops. Or make new loop patterns for each verse... something! This has potential, just needs more development. Also, I'm awful at piecing lyrical meaning together in my head; please add your lyrics to the lyric thread if you haven't already, I'd like to read them.

The Cow Exchange (me) featuring Puce (Puce)
Coolie: Puce lent his rapsta' voice to it. I don't know how he gets such a great sound but I want to import it, pending government approval. Favorite lyric: "nasty hoagie". Favorite non-rap moment: drums/guitar at "but I'm not givin' in"
Frowny: Mix is a bit loud ("louder than my CDs", as Tawny gently put it), hard to hear vocals in parts. Intro guitars have poor timing, and outro "bake it myself" comments are too harsh, probably should be quieter and more under-my-breath. First verse vox need a retake badly. Too much lyrical emphasis on pronunciation/grammar.
Misc: I accept all lyrical blame on the rap part (yes, it purposely calls for brioche to be pronounced wrong - but look at all the fun rhyming you can abuse with it!). Cow Exchange fan (note the singular form), can you find the line referencing a Cow Exchange AAD tune? Also, J$, I'm really glad to see you in this fight: the S&M clip in this tune was meant especially for you, responding to your "Hope You're Okay" review. I hope to re-record (or perform live) Hope You're Okay per your suggestion in the next year.

I'm squeezing J$'s radio button this week.

EightLeggedOedipus · Post by **EightLeggedOedipus** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:55 am

Adam Dachis
+++ I'm a sucker and I award novelty points for banjo sample. Fuck, it works +++
--- Vocals are way to upfront. Where's the bass? ---
+++ The plucked MIDI instrument at the end is cool. Why didn't you use that earlier? +++

Cow Exchange
+++ Rockin' intro to fun funky pop song. +++
--- Minus 1000 frequent flier points for tambourine in the chorus ---
+++ Puce's rap is unintelligble but the delivery is awesome. +++
--- A talkover meant to sound like a sample, but it doesn't? ---
/// Sounds like you should have been shouting the chorus, but you weren't confident enough ///

Johnny Cashpoint
/// Recorded vocals inside a toilet ///
+++ Awesome fucking instrument at 0:38 +++
--- Too short. Lots of loose rhythms ---
+++ Distorted bg vocals. Altogether a good, enjoyable song +++

Tough decision, actually.
J$ or CX? I think Johnny took more risks that panned out. Good job.

Conventional Wisdom · Post by **Conventional Wisdom** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:17 pm

luco brazzi sleeps with the fishes tonight.

Plat · Post by **Plat** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:22 am

EightLeggedOedipus wrote:A talkover meant to sound like a sample, but it doesn't?

I usually resist responding to reviews, but this sample made me so giddy I'm compelled to clarify!

It's a sample from my Speak & Math (or S&M for short), an old talking device from the early 80's to teach math. When you enter "word problems" mode, it plays a weird melody and says "word problems". It seemed fun to use because of the double meaning, and the fact that a math-specific electronics device is talking about words. But I'm weird like that.

deshead · Post by **deshead** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:49 pm

Adam Dachis: This has a really good flow, and a nice overall sound. Was it just a single vocal take? You did such a good job mixing all the parts, I'm surprised you didn't go back and punch in for the pitchy bits. (Like "wonder" in "so ya wonder who went under.") Some other thoughts on the mix: you use the stereo field well. I think the drums should be louder, definitely the kick drum. And I think I hear harmony in there (starting at 1:13), so that should probably be louder too. Unless there is no harmony. In which case ... uh ... as you were.

Cow Exchange: Heh, tambourine. The guitars and synths are mixed perfectly, but the drums could be a little louder, and the vocals definitely need to come up a bit (especially in the chorus and at the end of the rap. Or even just EQ out a little hole for them.) Here's the thing about this song: I love it, and in any other fight I'd vote for it without hesitation. But because of J$'s entry this week, the best I can offer you is a comparison to Fountains of Wayne. Will that do?

j$: How is this not on the soundtrack for a David Fincher or Guy Ritchie movie? I want, need, to listen to your entry repeatedly and it tweaks something different in my brain every time. Holy crap is it interesting. Whether or not that means it's a good song, if something demands more than 3 listens from me, it's an automatic vote. I've voted for this one 4 or 5 times now.

boltoph · Post by **boltoph** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:20 am

Adam Dachis - This is hilarious. So delicate and playful...naughty, a little fruity, butter in the center, buns rising...

J$ - Looks like a nipple!! YEAH!!!

Cow Exchange - Love the moog or whatever that is on the left. I really dig the verses!

Kamakura · Post by **Kamakura** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:43 am

Adam Dachis
I like Banjo, so this instantly worked. I wish you had posted the lyrics as I couldn't make them out. Probably too long.

Cow Exchange
Excellent song, excellent lyrics. A definite winner if I wasn't so blown away by

J$
I can't put my finger on why I like this so much. It's rough, too short, and yet it has... My vote.