Time to bear the Wrath of God's reviews

johnsonic · Post by **johnsonic** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:58 pm

AWESOME comments... Thanks Mostess for being so thorough!

Mostess · Post by **Mostess** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:41 pm

WeaselSlayer wrote:If this sounds annoying um, it probably is and I'm sorry.

Not annoying (although you could have told me which entry was yours. I'll assume "Luke Henley" through process of eliminiation.) My browser must have hiccuped.

Luke Henley: Like WreckdoM, you've entered something that isn't trying to fit into the mold of "song." It's something more like electro-acoustic art music. Trying to paint a sonic picture, which you do. So you've put me on the spot by asking me to review this specifically. There is no song form, so I can't critique it. No real lyrics (unless you expect me to have an opinion of you singing "Willie Mayes" over and over again). Kind of a melody in the guitar-voice part, but that sounds like a song-within-a-song, like an old record being sampled.

I can't review your song, because it's not trying to be a successful song. It is what it is. I suggest you listen to some Hostess Mostess entries to get a flavor of what my advice would mean to you. I doubt you'd care much for it.

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:47 pm

Thanks! I've actually heard your work on previous songfights, and I remember liking a lot of it.

hillbilly · Post by **hillbilly** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:15 pm

me and the ole lady just got back from bar'in, reviews to cum later.
Deshead- you rule dude, got my vote, liked everything about it. that is 1 fine sounding guitar.
The John Benjamen Band= ole lady was bout to choose you, enjoyed the story and the feelings, good job yall.

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:25 pm

I was disappointed that I could barely hear Messiah's track, and I thought there was an interesting song in there somewhere, so I mastered it with Ozone.
messiah_wrath-mastered.mp3
Sounds a lot better to me.
-bill

j$ · Post by j$ » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:32 am

IMO. Written as I listen.

(If ever a title was gonna provoke boredom in me, it was this one, so while I was impressed by the general quality, nothing really leapt out at me. Probably my problem, not yours.)

LL - Drums are too quiet. Doesn't sound like much thought went into it mix-wise, which might be OK, if the drums were louder to lock it all together. The chorus isn't strong enough to carry the not-very-funny wacky lyric. Nothing much to hold my interest, unfortunately. A bit INXS-sy if I am trying to find something useful to say.

FY - Nice keyboard - a little less verb? Or rather a little less verb on some of the parts. Not my thing I'm afraid. Although it's a beautiful voice and a nice production. It lacks kick / focus for me.

IEN - Starts out with the bass line sounding like a slowed down 'California Uber Alles'. Other than that see Fifteen Years review. what's wrong with a chorus in this day and age? The name promises something different - probably less accomplished but more kicking.

PF - Nice voice. It's at the right volume, but maybe you should spread it across the mix a bit more. Pretty I guess. You sound a bit uncomfortable singing the word 'shit', which made me smile.

LH - Lose the first minute. Add another layer of vocal harmony to the section from 1.00 onwards. There is something potentially charming about this but it could do with somer serious shortening. Far too long for what it is. The 'table top' percussion isn't adding anything for me.

Wreckdom - You have sold out.

BH - you only get one review per week.

HKD - Nice cello patch. Vocals are distracting. You should do a fast rap (i.e. rap at twice the bpm of the backing track) - nice guitar swell. Nah, this is a bit too slow and gothy for me. Nowhere near enough variation to support the track length.

Mediteraniem - Oh I have heard that opening progression somewhere before. 'Cheer up Sunny Cheeks'? I am struggling to hear the words which is a shame. Sounds like a not bad at all voice. It sounds like it could support a fuller recording.

Carlo - the vocal needs more confidence in the delivery. Cute, I guess. The hard panning on the drums is a bit annoying. Like the occarina-style key at comes in c.1.06 - jazz. Not enough variation though. The words I can take or leave.

JBB - Like: nice piano. 'I'll face the wrath of God to be with you'. The guitar kick into the chorus. Don't like: unneccessary number of harmonies, particularly the deep voice that emerges every now and again. The fact that "if loving you is sinning" sounds like "if loving you is silly'. The last bout of nice piano at the end of the song makes it longer than it needs to be.

Deshead - I like the harmonies, but I don't like the growly attempt of the lead vocal. It sounds like an attempt. I am a bit tired of this stompy blues-grass (if that's what it's called). The chorus is good. Hmmmm.

Me$$iah - I listened to Bill's remastered version. I quite like it, actually - there's lots there of interest but it's a little too all over the place for that goth-rock style. One too many chords in odd places for the sake of it, rather than actually adding anything to the overall effect.

Level Nivelo - not gay enough for me

Hard panning doing my head in. Sounds like the Fun Boy Three to me at the beginning, without the baritone harmonizing. Most interesting lyric of the bunch. Like the hit after 'bring back your old-time wrath'. A little too self-loathing for my tastes. Heh.

Nothing here is leaping out for my vote. Level Nivelo & JBB have the most interesting lyrical takes, so it'll probably be one of those two.

Richard WreckdoM · Post by **Richard WreckdoM** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:43 am

My reviews for the week. Disclaimer, I'm most of the time, Rude for
the sake of being Rude. Don't be offended, most of you can definitely
use it. Any and all suicides resulting from these reviews are the sole
responsibility of the deceased and in no way necessarily reflect the
opinions of songfight or any affiliate therein.

Carlo:

Flat, missing mucho

Likely Lads:

This has some decent elements to it.
I like thie guitar progressions.
The vocals sound like hell.
The screamy rants remind me a bit of the Offspring, which I can't stand.

The John Benjamin Band:

I imagine you lying lifeless in a shallow creek.
You lack the energy to lift your limp lathargic body.
You probably conteplated the elevation of your breathes,
but lacked the motivation to make the muscles move.

This is the art that you have compelled me to create. I dedicate this poem to you.

Mediteraniem:

Find a place where the level comes through well and don't touch that volume.
This does, quite literally, nothing for me. I say that a lot, but I'm more serious now.
I don't know who you're singing for, but you should keep that in mind.
How would you embrace this if it wasn't you?

Brice Henry and the Transformers:

Rhythmic, pretty lousy, Hey, this changes quite a bit and becomes chaotic.
I feel better about this song for that moment, but the fact that it only
lasts a moment takes it down a notch. Blah blah blah.

WreckdoM:

I like this song a lot, but not as much without headphones. I think that
our guest vocalist, Sandra, did an excellent job considering the circumstances.
How well do you sing with hot irons on your nipples? Not that those were the
circumstances. I was just saying. Anyway, where was I.. yeah, great Job Sandra.
You Rock! Also, a shout out to my homie, George W. Keep on slayin' em like it's not
your neck on the line.

DesHead:

This is nice recording. I'm not much into guytar, but this sounds nice and thick.
I can't say that the song really does anything structurally.
The different sections are chopped together sounding.
The vocals are pretty damn well done. It sounds stepped on though. So how many seperate
takes did you do? This is a large step above. I don't know if you knew this, but the
song sounds pretty seamless when it loops.

Pipefist:

Nice care to the panning with the opening. That's all over the place.
Let me get my 3D glasses. I rather like this, big surprise. It looped. I
don't really like the beginning of this, but by the end, it's enjoyable.

Hentai Kitty Death:

I can't understand what you're saying, and I don't particularly like the
music. It's like Rammstien + Andrew Lloyd Webber = Crap.

Me$$iah:

It might be because I really have to pee, but my left leg is doing the peepee dance.
You do a great job matching the phony angst lyrics with fake angst vocals.
Were you raised by a preacher? If so, wow, everyone else I've known that was
raised by a preacher was really cool.

Level Nivelo:

Ouch! The intro built up so nicely, then that horrible painful vocal steps in. Ouch!
I hope you got a lot off your chest hear, because you're hurting my ears.
As this progresses, it gets better. I like the way it resonates. forget everything bad
I said about this. You're OK. I really like everything about this song but the vocals.

Interactive Electric Nipple:

I sat down to listen to and review this with my long cord headphones on. The song repeated
all night while I slept, and now, I think your song may have caused a seizure or something.
How did you get Madonna to sing in this song? I would say that it's too long, but WoW! You
got Kenny G. too! This smells like fresh baked Tortoise Apple Pie® that I sat in.

Fifteen years:

Bored bored bored bored bored bored bored. Sorry, I just had to be immature. This sounds
well put together. I'm happy to hear lots of female vocalists on this fight.

Luke Henley:

Thank you for trying something different. Wait a minute, this is guytar! This is punishing.
This starts slow, and builds slowly, but the ending is nice. I liked the ending quite a bit.

These were sort of rushed reviews, most songs getting no more than two listens. I'll report back with my vote potentials later. Now get off your ass and review. I'm working 11 hour days over here and managing to review.

gduncan · Post by **gduncan** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:14 am

The ones I saved:

1) Deshead

Brilliant. The irish folk sounding, guitar picking is great. Good use of changing vocal melodies and harmonies. Parts of the melody sound very similar to sections of your Piece Of My Heat entry last week. I guess that is good though as it makes the song recognisable as you. I love this song, especially the fiddle solo.

The ones I didn't (in no particular order):

Carlier

You could do with some more instrumentation coming in to build up the chorus. As it is the whole song feels very samey. Not too long though, so you don't outstay your welcome. Not bad but a bit bland for my tastes.

Brice Henry

Hard panning the guitar and bass doesn't work very well for those of us having to listen on headphones. The bass sound is distracting because it slips in and out of time and the guitar is too quiet. Drum sound is all high end and no meat. The song has its moments but it isn't something I would listen to again.

Fifteen Years

This isn't a badly done song but I don't really like it. It feels a bit too
atmospheric and not solid enough. I like it better when the piano comes in, it starts to feel more like a song then. Ok but just not my thing.

Hentai Kitty Death

Nice use of strings at the start to set the scene. I'm not loving the vocal style though. It builds well into the chorus and you've arranged the instrumentation well. Overall the song feels far too long and I'm not very inclined to listen till the end.

Interactive Electric Nipple

The random noises at the start don't really grab me but the intro flows into the verse pretty well. The main vocal is too quiet and difficult to make out. Other than that it seems fairly well mixed although it can get a bit muddy when there is a lot going on. The song is ok but there isn't anything here that makes me want to listen for the full six minutes.

John Benjamin Band

I like the laid back mellow feel but the piano doesn't seem to sit very well with the other instruments. It feels a bit seperate. There needs to be a bit more energy in the verse to keep my interest. You manage it in the chorus but not quiet enough to make me want to return for another listen.

Level Nivelo

This has a Christmassy feel, I think because of the bell sound. The vocal delivery is putting me off. There is some good arrangement going on but the instrument sounds your using don't sit together very well. Not for me.

Luke Henley

The whistling goes on for too long and when it disappears there isn't anything to take its place. The singing isn't bad. If your going to tap out a rhythm at least get it in time. You need to work more on your lyrics and arrangement.

Mediteraniem

You've got too much reverb on the vocal and it's distracting. I'm finding it hard to listen to the song because it is quite muddy.

Me$$iah

The guitar sounds too washed out but I can see what you were aiming for. I don't think the vocal sytle suites this kind of song and the doubling of it panned left doesn't work well. I can't really get into this song.

Pipefist

I like the way you've used what at first seem like random noises to build a song without using the traditional drum and bass rhythm. You've got some interesting ideas in here. It does get tiring on the ears with so much going on. I think you should strip it back for some sections to give the listener a rest. You sing well.

Wreckdom

Babershop quartet gone insane.

Cheers,

Gareth.

gduncan · Post by **gduncan** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:27 am

Mostess wrote:
Likeley Lads: You have it!...Kill the guitar solo (or move it to the end while you repeat your coda over and over and over)...Seriously, a great song here.

Thanks for the kind words. I can see what you mean about the solo coming in too early, it kind of distracts you before the songs gets going.

Glad you like the song. Cheers,

Gareth.

A_Likely_Mike · Post by **A_Likely_Mike** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:12 am

Hentai Kitty Death
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Brooding cello intro is nicely done but then ruined when the singing comes in, unfortunately that type of singing/vocalisation does nothing for me - I'm a melody junkie. There are some nice touches, particularly in the piano motif and the effective use of the guitar. 5:33 is ridiculously long, I wanted to skip at 2:30 but made myself listen to the whole thing. The solo is well written and executed, but again goes on a bit too long. Overall it just sounds kind of ponderous.

Carlier
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MMm poppy, although that hard right hihat is distracting in headphones, that's a pretty aggressive pan for the drums, especially considering that people normally pan the snare and hi hat slightly one way and the ride and floor tom the other way. The main hook is nice, and I like the use of piano and electric piano tones, although there is a little clipping every now and then.

Luke Henley
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Your vocalised intro section was a mistake in my opinion, the whistling is overly loud and distracting, and it gets irritating really fast. Which is a shame, because the harmony vocals after the whistling are quite nice, even though they are out of time a lot. It's really nice when the guitar comes in, a great mood lifter, reminds me of Papa M and Sufjan Stevens. Argh, stop the random patting of your knees though, you're out of time and it's confusing to listen to. Some nice ideas but overall no dice.

Me$$iah
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The rock. The lead guitar needs to come up in the mix if that's what it is, same with your vocals, everything seems buried and sucked into some sonic vortex. Not sure on your singing, it seems kinda whiney. Drums get a bit scarily busy at the end.

Interactive Electric Nipple
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Ambient crazy noises, the "snare" sounds like someone going "pssh!", is it? I like the dubstar sounding section when the singing starts, in fact the dubstar connection continues with the singing, the vocalist also sounds a lot like Madonna in the tonality of her voice. jesus christ though 6 minutes? i just think in places this is slightly masturbatory, is the long section with the "Aaaaahhh" bits really necessary? It gets my feet tapping in the "these clouds feel good beneath my feet" sections, but then I was forced to make a face when I heard the saxophone solo, it needs to go as the vocals are actually doing something different at that point. It's just far, far, far too long. You could have said what you wanted to in 2-3 mins. The instrumental sections and the sax solo are extraneous. even the fade out is 20 seconds!

Deshead
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Rockabilly! Great intro and lovely playing and recording. Production is nice except the bass sounds a bit sludgy in places. Nice melody and harmonies, although it sounds very similiar to the melody you used last week? Overall the best song in the fight so far, it's got a breezy enthusiasm and there's no doubting your talent in playing, singing and picking out a hook. Nice use of the fiddle there, quality.

Mediteraniem
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God this is quiet... I like the use of the muted acoustic guitar chords in the chorus, the melody isn't bad either, only getting clunky ever now and then "it's not the devil's design...". Lots and lots of reverb on this, you appear to be drowning in it. Also, cut the boxy bass out of your acoustic to leave room for the bass guitar. "So long I want you to know" has a nice hook to it, develop that. The bass is fairly rudimentary. When you rock out at the end I could here drums etc coming in, I don't like the distorted vox doubling the chorus though, you've put too much gain on them so they ruin the hook.

Fifteen Years
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Scary intro, sounds like evanescence if they'd chucked out the chubby guys in the band that play the guitars. I like the overlapping vocals but something about this freaks me out. The vocal performance is great and the use of piano is top notch. As is the backing track, aside from maybe the percussion section which is slightly busy. I guess this just isn't really my thing. The coda outro with the piano is really nice though, I'd probably have loved this if it was piano and vox all the way through...

John Benjamin Band
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Nice intro and singing. The chorus is really pretty, nicely executed harmonies and good use of instrumentation. the bridge is nice too, overall I like this one a lot. I guess the only thing I'd suggest is that the drums reflect the dynamic of the chorus more.

WreckdoM
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This isn't very good. Although the "move to mexico" line it make me laugh lots and lots.

Brice Henry
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Those drums sound like they were recorded in a different country to the rest of the song, the tempo wavers on your HARD panned bass and guitar which confuses the hell out of me. I dunno whether you're going for a sorta slacker flat singing tone, but offkey harmonies never sound good. The crazy bit is just horrible to listen to.

Level Nivelo
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Bells, crazily distorted drums and that soft high singing are a bit of a fruity mix. I like whatever is in the right channel, use of "laissez-faire" probably for the first time ever in lyrics so kudos for that. Overall though this is a hotchpotch of stuff that could have really worked but I just find confusing.

Pipefist
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There's a great song underneath the stereo bouncing samples, I think if you'd eased back on the extra stuff that it would have benefitted the song a large amount. It's sounds ok in the intro but it detracts from your good vocal melody and performance in the verses and choruses which is a shame. The hook is very nice indeed: "He'll find a way...". Well done, I'd say with some clearing up that this would beat Deshead but because of the busy nature of the backing it comes a close second. Have more confidence in your songwriting and lay some of it bare.

Overall I liked Deshead, Pipefist, and John Benjamin Band.

I played lead guitar on our Likely Lads entry this week so direct wanky solo complaints towards me

, I hate hair rock as much as anyone but it had to be done....

Thanks for the reviews everyone else who's done them, keep em coming.

vanilla ike · Post by **vanilla ike** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:10 pm

j$ wrote:

Wreckdom - You have sold out.

.

Geoff!, Dick! You hear that......we sold out! Awesome man.......that means the label will have to press more discs!.....I wonder if it is only at Jay Dollarsigns music store or if its everywhere!......Whoo hoo boys we might get to move out of our folk's basement's afterall........I told you this music thing was where it's at........this all seems like a very unlikely occurence.

p.s. thank you for not shortening our name to w......the affiliation would not be appreciated.

deshead · Post by **deshead** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:49 pm

In no particular order, except for the last few.

deshead I'm grateful for all the feedback. Single take on most parts, some punching on the vox... I still can't hear the melody similarity between this and PoMH (though I'm probably too close to tell. Maybe the same rising cadence in the chorus?)... And no, J$, I really don't think it's called "stompy bluegrass", though I doubt that makes you any less sick of it

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Brice Henry and the Transformers There's a good story to your song, but your voice distracts from it. I mean this as constructively as you can take it: commit to the note!! You've got good vocal potential, but you have to mean it when you sing. Missing your pitch slighty but convincingly sounds way better than sliding up and down aimlessly.

Hentai Kitty Death The production definitely evokes the right atmosphere. The song is long (and the bass drum starts to get monotonous), so that probably cost you some votes. Great energy at the end, though. (I think some others have noted, too, that it's hard to understand your vocals. Maybe a bit less reverb/delay, and some more top-end?)

Carlo I can't offer anything you haven't already read. It's a great pop song, with a slightly distracting hat sound on one side, and some unfortunate clipping. No matter, I look forward to future efforts.

The John Benjamin Band I like the lead singer's voice a lot. Some great lyrics, too. The mix needs more high end (which may be 'cause the drums aren't loud enough.) I'd drop the vocals back a little, and bring the strings way up in the chorus. Make it nice and lush.

Level Nivelo The intro is wicked compelling, but the vocals don't fit the rest of the song stylistically. As others have noted, the voice is too loud. I think the vocal track would work better oversaturated, with the bottom end lopped off. Can you get your hands on a megaphone? (Also, I checked: stoning adulters is still cool.)

Luke Henley Listen to this on a few different systems, and treat the whistling accordingly. I find if I start at 1:31, it's a much better song.

Mediteraniem I think there's a good song in here, but as you've probably read above, it's covered in a layer of damp, quiet mud. (If you ever remix it, I'd like to hear the results.)

Me$$iah This is too flat for my tastes (though Bill's version is a marked improvement, so maybe it was just your production.) It didn't grab me, but the style and sound will definitely work for a lot of folks.

Fifteen Years The voice is absolutely beautiful in places, and the song's produced very well. It's dynamically flat, although that's more an observation than a criticism, 'cause I think you got the sound you were going for. Unfortunately, for me the dynamic makes the repetition (especially "just come to me") stand out too much. Still, great job overall.

WreckdoM If you deliberately tried to make this more appealing than your usual, you did a good job. Or maybe it was a happy accident. Either way, I don't think you care much about production advice, so I'll give you kudos instead on my favorite WreckdoM 'song' ever.

The Likely Lads Great rock tune. Nice and tight.

Interactive Electric Nipple This is hands-down the best production of the week. The sound is so lush, and you've got a perfect balance between the bass and the top-end. Man, I wish I could get my highs to sound as crisp as that. The vocals are perfectly suited too. You didn't top my list only 'cause I found the track too long. (It sounds like a theme track ... Maybe you want to investigate this.)

Pipe Fist That guitar tone is amazing, and the song has the best chorus hook of the week. I like your voice a lot, too. You hold back just the right amount for the emotion you're conveying. And I may be alone in this, but I love all the bouncy sounds. You should win this fight.

johnsonic · Post by **johnsonic** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:10 pm

Rock. Deshead, you rock...

Yeah, I knew I'd get creamed for it being too long, but when it came time to cut stuff out (there was a TON of instrumental contribution from my more talented friends, so it sort of grew into a monster), I was already 40+ listens in, and it sounded strange to me when I cut stuff out... Think I may dust this one off in a few months when I'm less attached and give it another go...

Thanks for your kind words!!!

Geoff WreckdoM · Post by **Geoff WreckdoM** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:01 pm

deshead wrote:WreckdoM If you deliberately tried to make this more appealing than your usual, you did a good job. Or maybe it was a happy accident. Either way, I don't think you care much about production advice, so I'll give you kudos instead on my favorite WreckdoM 'song' ever.

Thanks! We did not intentionally beome more listenable with this entry, I was under the impression it was just as screwy as anything else we've ever done, but hey, not gonna complain about reaching a wider audience. Also, production advice is always much appreciated. I know the vocals had clipping on this, which we tried to mask as best as possible, since rerecording was unfortunetly not an option. The clipping is in fact better than it was before we did some tampering.

Carlobarlo · Post by **Carlobarlo** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:36 am

UNCLE! UNCLE!

Thanks everyone who's given feedback so far. Thanks for the constructive feedback likely mike and deshead.

Carlo

ps: my girlfriend's three-year-old daughter LOVES my song, so there.

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:21 pm

OK Straight to business
here are my reveiws
Written as I listen for about the sixth time

Brice Henry
nice tune good lyrics needs tighning up though
I like the middle section totally unexpected

Carlier
Not for me but quite competent tho it appears to be a bit Huey Lewisy

Deshead
I dont think theres a lot I can say, cept if you next song is like your last few then Im gonna give up playing to live in a van and follow you round

good tune

Fifteen Years
A bit chrispy for me(lyrically) but beautiful counterpoint on the melodies,
I like the piano
Needs to go somwhere tho

Hentai Kitty Death
I love the cello intro. Very sisters of mercy Needs more bass i think tho
With a good McCoy voice at the end up till the scream
Good tune - a bit too long tho

Interavtive Electric Nipple
Oooohh and i thought the last one was long
Nice tune Quite like world music but it doesnt do a great deal for me
Again I think its too long without the variety or tension moves to warrant it

John Benjamin Band
Good tune Lovely harmonies Not a lot to say, a well formed finished song in just about all ways

Level Nivelo
Great lyric good groove i like it but spend more time getting the vocals right. Could be an excellent tune that

The Likley Lads
Good well formed rock n roll tune I like it harmonies need tighning tho
nice lead guitar tone more drums in the mix too

Luke Henley
I wish i could whistle. I wish the singnig was louder in this too after the whilstle and no drums at all would be better

Mediteraniem
Waay too much reverb but you knew that already theres a great song lost in there somwhere

Me$$iah
Just not enough time to finish my first songfight. I realized the time and just mixed down wat was there with a guide vocal that i just threw fx onto, any fx. Absloutly no time spent on the mix so my apologies

Pipefist
Really good I like this could've cut the shouting at the end, but after a few listens it kinda works well 'How dare you I hate this plaice i aint never coming here again' its great

Wreckdom
Top tune Tho after listening to some of your other stuff it does seem more commercial. Keep it up. The only thing is i keep getting this look in my eye that makes my dog go into hiding

Good fight
Ill have to do better next time
possible votes Pipefist-Likey Lads-Mediteraniem-Wreckdom
Any of those would've had my vote had it not been for

Deshead - a really nice tune a keeper

Me$$iah

"Who are you people"

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:29 pm

I would also like to say

Thank you

to
Bill from HeuristicsInc.

Top draw mix you top man you

tho to be honest you probly spent longer doing it than I did

HAHAHAAAAAHA

i gotta think more carefully bout time managment on my next fight

but again thanx for making me feel welcome

I can send you all me raw tracks if you like and you can mix em LOL

Me$$iah

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:50 pm

Me$$iah wrote: tho to be honest you probly spent longer doing it than I did

You're welcome.
Honestly, it took me about 2 mins, between opening my prog, running it, and uploading to my server, longer only because I made a mistake the first time and had to redo it

Check this out if you have a spare $250:
Izotope Ozone
It's such a good plugin, what I used was a preset

As for mastering all of them, a big maybe

-bill

PS I won't keep that version up forever, so if you want it for keeps make sure you get it by the end of the fight.

PipeFist · Post by **PipeFist** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:29 pm

Pipe Fist That guitar tone is amazing, and the song has the best chorus hook of the week. I like your voice a lot, too. You hold back just the right amount for the emotion you're conveying. And I may be alone in this, but I love all the bouncy sounds. You should win this fight.

Ha, that's crazy talk, man. See, the first thing I thought when I heard your song was something along with "Oh, it's all over." I love your song a lot. It's really catchy to me. Reminds me a lot of Slobberbone.

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:12 pm

I reckon I oughta pay my dues here:

Hentai Death Kitty: There's something very nihlistic about this entry. It exists in its own sort of dimension, and I love that about it. Plus I liked The Crow and this sounds like it could be the theme song. But, I mean, it does drag on a bit.

Carlo: This may not be, like, all that edgy or anything, but it made me feet tap. It sounded like you had fun doing it, and I think that's what's great about it. There were times that I looked at how much time and passed and wondered how much more of the song there was, but I kind of have ADD maybe. Get a gospel choir, that'd kick ass.

Deshead: Folk music has always been the best, and this reminds of why that is. The voice sounds a little too macho at times, though. Like, I love some grit here and there but I think save the beef for the chorus and keep it lean for the verses. Anyway, I love the harmony a lot and the instrumentation is just pristine.

Fifteen Years: This is not something I would have expected to hear on songfight. It's spooky as hell, and I love that. It's a bit of a droner, but I like that at times. I think at the point where the vocals start soaring a bit, right before the awesome piano, there could be a little more punch. Right where the cool like woodblock percussion or whatever comes in, that is where I love the song the most. I want more of that. More more more.

Interactive Electric Nipple: I expected this to suck, and I'm sorry for judging a band by its name. Anyway, this was kind of like cheesy pop with just enough offkilter spookiness to make it really enjoyable. The bridge after the first verse makes me feel like I'm falling into some sort of space warp hell. I like it there.

John Benjamin Band: I like the harmonies a lot, but the piano and percussion bugs me a bit. Like, it's really good, but it's too shimmery or something. That's just a personal preference thing, though. It's really quite a well-done song, it just doesn't personally grab me- wait. Right now, when it picks up into the chorus(?). Ok, now I like it a lot. But after that it kind of falls back into that sort of "I can picture the music video to this, and there are a lot of shots of the singer looking pensive in a big chair moving his hands around" vibe. But serious, great chorus.

Level Nivelo: Do you love Ween? Because I do, and this seems like it's in that vein. Cheesy and aware of its cheesiness. But evil too. I love evil. I love this song. Like if Satan had a kid's tv show, this would be the theme song. The lyrics are funny, but in a very tragicomic way. "Bring it on, Padre," words like that has some balls on 'em.

The Likely Lads: The instrumentation is really tight on this, but I can't look past the mild "cheese" factor because the lyrics aren't punchy enough to justify the music behind them. Like, I dunno, maybe if I was offended more it would work. I keep thinking of that bitchin' Dead Kennedys song that put it simply, "All religions make me sick, all religions make me wanna throw up, all religions make me sick, all religions suck." Swear more? I dunno. If you're a dirty atheist, fuckin sing like one, y'know? Still, you gots chops, nobody's doubting that.

Mediteraniem: I love the effect this one has, but the vocals and the lyrics kind of turn me off. It might just be me, though. You have a really good voice, but sometimes good voices turn me away from songs. Like James Taylor. Great voice, sometimes great songs, but the two go together and it sounds like hyper-slick horrible shit. This song doesn't sound like horrible shit, though, it's just not really something I'm into. Although it gets better near the end. A little more dissonant with more passion. I like that quite a bit.

Me$$iah: Somebody already name-checked Weird Al, right? I wish this were either funnier or angrier. Tight instrumentation though.

Pipe Fist: This has layers to it. Wonderful wonderful layers. I feel like I'm swimming in it. The lyrics aren't terribly great, but neither were mine for this and really if the words were really awesome I wouldn't hear them anyway because the music is so engaging. Good great excellent work.

Wreckdom: I swear, all of you are Ween fans. I love this because it sounds like it hates me, but it's totally calm about it.

Luke Henley: You're horrible, damn that whistle is shrill, you are an amateur douchebag.

I hope I didn't miss anyone. Great job everybody, I was very pleased to be in such a solid mix my first go-around.

vanilla ike · Post by **vanilla ike** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:39 am

meditaraniem.......need more emotion in the vox and playing.....i dont believe you......but i dig your lyrics........ louder part better.....but you still dont quite connect.........the buzzy background doesnt make it better...very distracting......aaahhh shit man.......that needs a better ending than that.......good job man....good work.....

Pipe Fist.......not wearing heaphones.....but that shit feels hemisyncish....got my attention ....im diggin the percussive buildup......right on right on.......not groovin on the chorus so much......likin the verses though....the oh oh's could use background vox........harmonies....what you have could come forward.....settin a high standard from the get go two songs in.......a little long on the end....i dig it and theres a lot here to dig

Brice Henry and the Translucents....well, the board has already beat you up with what i hope you already are aware of.....(your out of tune).......then what the.....that makes it really hard not to just move on to the next tune.......you almost lost me.......not lust......well.....nah...but a palatable tune save (meaning with exception to) the screaming .....keep up the effort and figure out your pitch problems for next time

The Likely Lads.....the vox could use effects...bullhorn maybe....i'm diggin it.....i like the syncopation in the verse......that woo ooh woo ooh is similar to something on comedy central.............abrupt ending......all in all very enjoyable....it's likely i will like this to vote for....

Fifteen Years....bungabungabungabunga.....chookoochookoochookoochookoo.....hip..no.....tie?.....zing!....too much.....pretty tight though.....vox need refined.....but good....piano a bit busy in parts......this is great for the style .......layered shtuff nifty.....the beedle leedle deedle dee piano at the end doesnt fit......good job all around i'm impressed

The John Benjamin Band.....nice piano intro......beat drops too suddenly.....the dual voices need better layering.......i'm diggin the package though....good work

Deshead you really ough to learn how to play guitar

uh yeah....so this is really freakin .....really freakin tight.....shit doodle....vocal tastiness....with string sweets as a side.....and the only critique i have is why end so quick? That sh is tasty enough for another verse....

Interactive Electrical Nipples........Beer Bottle Bangin'? bish.......bish a little hot in the mic ( i should know....i do the same thing)....great female vocals goin there........hmmmmmmm these are a lot of good songs.....the ahh ahhhhh part goes just a tad to long...unnecessary complexity.....hooray!! Saxaphone! Cool......oh yeah....groovy slidin out and then .....curve.......bumpy road....uncertainty.....where did the road we were on go to? I guess we are left to wander......if thats what you meant to do.....brilliant! if not......say you did! I dig it.......man seriously......i thought it would be easy to vote......but wow some kick ass submissions here

WreckdoM......would have liked to had more time for doo whoppin vocal work.......but really i still dig it.......theremin tastiness........tuning issues on final vocal.......but i like it.....in meh heek oh.

Level Nivelo.......lots of keyboard work this week.....cool build up.....feels kind of like huge machines marching the streets.......and then.......and then......and then........Pee Wee!.......W.....huh.....T.......eh?.....F? But the lyrical content is provocative and the rythym is there......your just not a singer i'm guessin........i like it......and i think you could improve you vocals with some work........keep on with the on keepin

Carlo......I see that your girlfriends daughter digs it........and that makes me dig it more.....although....it are a wee bit o the fromage..........."the power of love"? i cant help but like it though....even with the ping pongy cassy oh my goodness its ear delicious

Hentai Kitty Death......tuning problems ontop of mumbling problems.......not easy on the listening holes.....not liking this.......guitar bee wah bee wah ha ha is a nice change.....its all growing on me as it progesses but it still lacks.....those vocals are killing it for me......sing in your range and it will sound lower....you dont have those notes so theres a vas deferens between how it would sound about a whole step up and maybe digitaly lowered......

Luke Henly[/b.......dont hear much wizzlin in these here parts......nice change of pace......when does the song start?.......those vocals are too far back.......and now all stand for the prayer of invocation by......Millie Ways in on the surface of the desk drum....one of my favorites actually......will he maze? There's some art in this somewhere........keep it up.....doin well with what you got......show us more

Me Double Dollarsigh Niah......boodooboodooboodooboodoo......not catching me......more vocals in front........i'm likin the drumwork.....althought its a bit off in places it makes me stay for more.......this is getting a bit ponderous........and......and.......and.......out

well.......there are some revues.....i liked everything this week.......but shhhhh......uh......cks eh......well i am going to reserve my vote till i listen again.....but thanks to all the reviewers and keep up the goodness all!

Duncan, of Level Nivelo · Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:07 am

Interactive Electric Nipple Nice drumming at the beginning. Nice buildup, lovely vocals & synth mix. Very pretty. Strange key changes and jazzy interludes. Wow, this is really long.

Deshead Nice pickin'. Nice Tom Waits-y delivery. Like the flipping between major and minor. Nice little yodel near the end.

Hentai Kitty Death Suitably dramatic synth at the beginning. Drums are annoying me. Can't really hear what you're going on about, but sounds important, whatever it is.

Fifteen Years This feels like I should be dancing to this in a gay bar in 1992- very Army of Lovers. What I thought was the intro turns out to be the whole song. Nice ending.

WreckdoM A little too loud and scratchy for me, but a nice take on it. Is that a theremin? Like the layered vocals.

Mediteraniem Too much echo, but a very good song. Love the 5/4 time parts. Nice buildup to the end.

Brice Henry and the Transformers If you were singing on key, this would be a cute little country song. "I watched Frasier, but never watched Cheers" - nice line (reference to Shelley Long in the other fight?). Whoa- that big loudness just comes out of nowhere.

Me$$iah Very flat and slick. Not bad. Doesn't really change much.

Pipe Fist Woo! Hard panning! Interesting noises. Good vocals and lyrics. This is my favorite.

The Likely Lads Nice hard rock. Drums need to be louder to really kick the ass.

Carlo This is adorable. Vocals get fuzzy and scratchy later.

Luke Henley Your whistling hurts my head. I like the harmonies, but perhaps you should invest in a metronome. Willie Mays?

The John Benjamin Band Yay! Someone else who showed their lyrics! Gorgeous piano. So Emo. Beautifully mixed. Great lyrics. Nice Abelard and Heloise shout-out.

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