Don't Think I Don't Like Your Song (or Miss You reviews)

Kill Me Sarah · Post by **Kill Me Sarah** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:03 pm

deshead wrote:There are two measurement "scales" generally used in digital audio. One, the absolute scale, fixes its lower end-point at 0dB. The complete absence of sound is 0dB. (Someone who tells you that a "jet engine produces 150dB of sound" uses this scale.)

That helps. I was having a hard time reconciling those facts before you explained the different scales.

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:33 pm

Wow, the songs are up and reviews have already started. I've got to take my youngest daughter to a Father / Daughter square dance, so I'll do reviews later on. You little pardners hang out here by the campfire and I'll meet you later over by the ole chuckwagon.

blue · Post by **blue** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:12 pm

wow Martin, did you take voice lessons or something? your singing is about 80,000X better than in the past..

you're so missing the tearful blue wilco guitars on here, tho.

[edit] Soundelux on the vox?

wait, Martin isn't Martin? there are _two_ soulful aussie piano players with nice vocal mics on songfight?

weird.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:17 pm

Reviews: First impression reviewsâ€¦ yeah, so I type as I listen and pass immediate judgementâ€¦ I AM SIMON. Ok, I review nothing like that Idol Iconâ€¦ still, stream of conscious reviews.

Leaf 62

: I wanted to write lyrics that more people could relate to. The best (but weirdest) compliment I could get was that when my wife read them, she thought I was gonna leave her and this was some kind of way of telling herâ€¦ so â€¦ (sheâ€™s on day one of quitting smokingâ€¦not usually that paranoid!!) I guess it workedâ€¦ still, as anyone else who does this hopefully knows, itâ€™s quite the feeling to get to know a new song, and pour yourself into it. There is no band, itâ€™s just me, for the one guy who thought it was a band.

Andy Balham:

Ok, I swear you just said something about wanting to suck me off.. so I had to start it over again. Hahaha! Oh manâ€¦ sorryâ€¦ itâ€™s â€œSET you offâ€

boltoph · Post by **boltoph** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:18 pm

hey all, sorry I had done a late night mix on our tune, etc, etc, here's one that's a little better (less harsh on the mids, not quite so loud, just if anyone likes it or whatever).

Peas

- B

p.s.

Leaf wrote:You fuckin assholes...

Leafman, I love your mix dude it's fucking tight as a june bug! I dont care what you say...

blue · Post by **blue** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:19 pm

boltoph wrote:hey all, sorry I had done a late night mix on our tune, etc, etc, here's one that's a little better (less harsh on the mids, not quite so loud, just if anyone likes it or whatever).

Peas

- B

it's muddy

boltoph · Post by **boltoph** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:22 pm

Kill Me Sarah · Post by **Kill Me Sarah** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:59 pm

[quote="Leaf"]
Kill me Sarah

I LIKE YOUR BAND NAME. Holy crap, you werenâ€™t kidding about this being low in volume. Itâ€™s fun, well played, but thereâ€™s nothing special about this in the recording idiom. This is the kinda song, for me, where a dude busts out the guitar at some function ( Iâ€™m wishing it were a pr0n conventionâ€¦but apparently they bust other things out thereâ€¦ but I digress) anyway, so he busts out the tune, and at first youâ€™re thinkingâ€¦ uh oh, here we go...but as it moves on, youâ€™re likeâ€¦â€

jack · Post by **jack** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:39 pm

i for one am psyched to see martin-roy-castle-twitty back in the fray. i still listen to and love your pancho and lefty.

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:24 pm

Well I'm back from the square dance (there's a reason they call it that ya'all) and ready to review.

Leaf62: The drums sound great (shocker) and I like the tremelo effect on the clean guitar. The distorted guitar is a little too distorted and kind of thin sounding for my taste. The song as a whole rocks and is a great start to the fight. But itâ€™s a little depressing too because my immediate take is that itâ€™s better than my own entry and now I donâ€™t want to go on listening. Or living. Talented bastard.

Andy Balham: The drums are buried a little too much and the whole mix has a bit too much reverb for me. I love the backing vocals as an idea, but again they seem like theyâ€™re too far back in the mix. In fact, the overall mix is just lacking definition, I think itâ€™s the effects. Try re-mixing this with less echo and more focus on bringing the vocals out front. Itâ€™s a good start, it just needs some re-tooling.

Barstools: The main vocal needs to come up in the mix, and the guitar could come down just a tad. The harmonies are really solid, but I donâ€™t care for the background talking too much. Of course if you were going for a live band type effect, then that part makes sense. The longer I listen, thatâ€™s what Iâ€™m taking out of this with the bottles clinking in the background and all. I like the â€œThis is the story ofâ€

jeffhenderson · Post by **jeffhenderson** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:08 am

I really liked Jordan's entry, but my vote goes to Matt Glossy. I really dig the groovy feel. The mix isn't outstanding, but it's good enough that it won't distract you from the song. I think I would really like a fully produced song from him.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:51 am

the Sober Irishman

Am I glad I noticed that your song wasn't posted with the others. Wicked. this is the BEST thing I have heard from you for my ears. Sounds great, nice fuckin work!! Those keys, the drums sound just great. Man, what the hell is going on? Is this all you, or do you have people playing with you? RAVE RAVE RAVE.

CONTENDER.

Might be my new fav of the fight...

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:20 am

Uh-Oh, late entry. Membership has it's priveledges. I can see why you were raving on that new keyboard you got. Wow and you obviously got that whole noisy recording situation figured out because this sounds great. Are you recording at home or at work with friends? Man Sober, this songs rocks. I'm going to have to lay down a guitar part on this just for fun. It doesn't need it, the music is just making me want to grab my guitar and play. Very cool vibe from the keys to the vox to well, everything. That key solo is so good, the bass solo equally great. OK, you just made the top of the "Fucker" list. Everyone else can go home now, Sober just got my vote.

EDIT: OK, on my 4th or 5th listen to this I'm starting to wonder about this badass keyboard you got. So now I gotta know if the guitar and bass parts are the keyboard or the real deal? It won't diminish the song in any way in my mind. Hell it just might enhance it knowing you did all the parts. Anyway, I'm anxiously awaiting the tale of the song.

Kill Me Sarah · Post by **Kill Me Sarah** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:32 am

[quote="Dan-O from Five-O"]
Kill me Sarah: Well for 20 minutes effort, this is what you get. Given that you had almost 2 weeks to do this song and were encouraged in the optional challenge to â€œTake your timeâ€

jack · Post by **jack** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:45 am

Dan-O from Five-O wrote: EDIT: OK, on my 4th or 5th listen to this I'm starting to wonder about this badass keyboard you got. So now I gotta know if the guitar and bass parts are the keyboard or the real deal? It won't diminish the song in any way in my mind. Hell it just might enhance it knowing you did all the parts. Anyway, I'm anxiously awaiting the tale of the song.

just no nevada sized pics please

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:49 am

kill_me_sarah wrote:Ah, there's the warm welcome to Song Fight that I was expecting. As far as it not being very imaginative, well, that's pretty much a matter of perspective, right? If I've never written a country song in my life and in a burst of inspiration I spit one out in short order, then that's pretty imaginative for me, wouldn't you say? At any rate, I value the input, so thank you.

No. This is the warm welcome you can expect to Songfight when you bitch about reviews. FUCK YOU! (I'm not saying that, but someone might) I didn't spend 20 minutes on my song, you did. I spent more time on my reviews than you did on your song. I listened to each and every song multiple times, including yours. I said nothing about the fact that your song was completely below the recorded sonic level of every other song in this fight, because you already did. What I pointed out was the fact that you wrote this song in a hurry, and your effort suffered as a result. I seriously couldnâ€™t care less about what genre you usually write in, country, western, or asshole. Nor do I care about genre in general, I don't base my opinions of songs on that. I base them on general effort, talent, and overall quality. If you're only going to spend 20 minutes on your song, don't expect people to give a shit about it. You got exactly out of it what you put into it.

In order to avoid this in the future, let me just say this to everyone else I was critical of. Move on. Getting reviews here is not a right, they are a privilege. Getting positive reviews should be the lowest thing on your expectation level. If all you are here for is ego stroking and someone telling you how great your song is then what you really need to do is just share it with family and friends. They certainly won't give you the kind of feedback you're going to have to expect around here. Just because I donâ€™t like someoneâ€™s song doesnâ€™t mean I donâ€™t like them as a person. Itâ€™s not personal to me, itâ€™s only the process. You submit a song and it gets reviewed if youâ€™re fortunate. Some songs may get reviewed in one line like, â€œYeah, this is (insert your own adjective)â€

jack · Post by **jack** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:06 am

before posting something about a bad review (or consequently a bad review of a bad review), take a deep breath and say "it's just that asshole's opinion". then go have a piece of pie.

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:10 am

jack wrote:before posting something about a bad review (or consequently a bad review of a bad review), take a deep breath and say "it's just that asshole's opinion". then go have a piece of pie.

You're right of course, and it's the only time I will defend my opinion in this thread. Sorry for the rant everyone.

jeffhenderson · Post by **jeffhenderson** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:23 am

[quote="Dan-O from Five-O"]
Some songs may get reviewed in one line like, â€œYeah, this is (insert your own adjective)â€

Kill Me Sarah · Post by **Kill Me Sarah** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:10 am

Haha, wow. You were my offended by my criticizm of your criticizm than I was of your criticizm of my song. I wasn't claiming my song was the next Bohemian Rhapsody or anything, but everone's got a right to defend themselves a little. I said that I appreciated your feedback, did I not?

Let's not get our panties in a twist people.

erik · Post by **erik** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:23 am

kill_me_sarah wrote:As far as it not being very imaginative, well, that's pretty much a matter of perspective, right? If I've never written a country song in my life and in a burst of inspiration I spit one out in short order, then that's pretty imaginative for me, wouldn't you say? At any rate, I value the input, so thank you.

C'mon now, don't play the perspective card. People who don't know you from Adam can't be expected to know (or care) about your personal situation. If everyone in your family is 5 feet tall, but you're 5 foot 4, does that make you tall? Well, comparitively. But if someone said you were short, that'd be more accurate, because compared to most other people you (hypothetically speaking) would be.

So, is this song imaginitive for <i>you</i>? Well hell, how should I know? But it's not really imaginitive in the grand scheme of things. I mean, if you want to be proud of your song, then great. People should be proud of their songs. But c'mon, this song is just pretty standard fare. Yes, yes, country music is littered with simply arranged 1-4-5 songs. But they tell stories, or feature a singer with a blessed gift of a voice, or something. This song needs something.

Spending only 20 minutes on a song, and then telling people that you spent only 20 minutes on it is kind of a crutch, I think. It's like if people don't like your song, you can always filter off some of their dislike towards the fact that you didn't spend very much time on it. Try spending some more time on your next song, to see if you can come up with something that will grab someones attention.

Standard erik Disclaimer: All of my opinions are just opinions.

Post by jb » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:25 am

Dan-O from Five-O wrote:RAWR

Gee Dan-O, that was, uh, more uh, vehement than seemed to be called for, considering kill_me_sarah's response to your review. *organizing intervention*