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blue · Post by **blue** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:36 pm

what's the cure for apathy.

Denyer · Post by **Denyer** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:51 pm

club soda

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:01 pm

homeopathy.
-bill

sausage boy · Post by **sausage boy** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:46 pm

no idea, but an apathecary might know.

Steve Durand · Post by **Steve Durand** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:00 pm

blue wrote:what's the cure for apathy.

Who cares?

Steve

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:31 am

HeuristicsInc wrote:homeopathy.
-bill

does that mean being too lazy to be gay?

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:11 am

blue wrote:what's the cure for apathy.

You called me over here buttwipe, specifically to harrass Lunkhead.

I think you did it because you were bored. Who wouldn't get bored in a "community" set up as such. you have been here 4 or 5 years blue. There is no future for you. It's another stoopid title and another review. And no hope of ever implementing innovative ideas.

Blue, you blow. And Songfight drones on.

LEF forever.

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:29 am

Caravan Ray wrote:
HeuristicsInc wrote:homeopathy.
-bill
does that mean being too lazy to be gay?

It's one of those New-Age probably-nonscientific alternative medicine methods... you're supposed to treat problems with the same thing - this example I heard was for someone that is allergic to cats to touch one while somebody massages their spine, or some such thing. You can read about it on the wiki if you want.

...but really I was just engaging in some wordplay for fun

-bill

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:28 am

drone on blowboys

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:36 am

Oust The Mods wrote:
blue wrote:what's the cure for apathy.
You called me over here buttwipe,

HAHAAHAAHAH!!! You just outed yourself as Blue's bitch!!!

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA-OTManswersBlUESbeckandcallHAHAHAHAHAHAAA.

... dude, you so burned yourself.

Justincombustion · Post by **Justincombustion** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:03 pm

Hey Blue, I got a couple of cigs, MENTHOL! Can I have him for a few?

blue · Post by **blue** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:13 pm

Oust The Mods wrote:
blue wrote:what's the cure for apathy.
You called me over here buttwipe, specifically to harrass Lunkhead.

I think you did it because you were bored. Who wouldn't get bored in a "community" set up as such. you have been here 4 or 5 years blue. There is no future for you. It's another stoopid title and another review. And no hope of ever implementing innovative ideas.

Blue, you blow. And Songfight drones on.

LEF forever.

it was a serious question. obviously, this community isn't interested in democracy. we are apathetic to the concept of a democratically run songfight.

so what's the cure. democracy isn't a self-fulfilling or even a natural process. it's the result of compromise and altruism. so where's our motivation?

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:32 pm

(ha ha I think I'm wearing them down!)

Drone on mudsuckers. And don't read what I write in parentheses because that is not for you. That's for our studio audience.

(watch me take these clowns to the laundry)

Billy's Little Trip · Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:44 pm

Why should a privately owned site have to be a democracy? It's great if they want to, but not a requirement. I'm just asking.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:08 pm

Oust The Mods wrote:(ha ha I think I'm wearing them down!)

Drone on mudsuckers. And don't read what I write in parentheses because that is not for you. That's for our studio audience.

(watch me take these clowns to the laundry)

Ha.

I read it.

haha.

We win.

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:20 pm

Billy's Little Trip wrote:Why should a privately owned site have to be a democracy? It's great if they want to, but not a requirement. I'm just asking.

Why should it be owned by two members instead of all the members?

You ought to have retained at least 50% of your members. But seriously, what worthy member would invest in a community that does not need them. Songfight doesn't need anyone except the adms. whereas a constitutionally formed community rotates it's membership through leadership roles.

I just think you're nuts. That's why I never took you seriously.

blue · Post by **blue** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:29 pm

Oust The Mods wrote:You ought to have retained at least 50% of your members.

this is completely specious.

you speak only from your ass.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:28 pm

blue wrote:
Oust The Mods wrote:You ought to have retained at least 50% of your members.
this is completely specious.

you speak only from your ass.

Oust Ventura?

sausage boy · Post by **sausage boy** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:32 pm

Oust The Mods wrote:You ought to have retained at least 50% of your members.

Who decided this? It might be hard to believe, but I am a member of some other forums. One i am a member of is democratically run, much like the format you suggest, and I think it only retains around 30% of the members that sign up. Then there is another forum I am a part of, privately run like this one, where the retention is something like 80%.

Do bots count towards the total numbers?

Billy's Little Trip · Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:50 pm

Oust The Mods wrote:
Billy's Little Trip wrote:Why should a privately owned site have to be a democracy? It's great if they want to, but not a requirement. I'm just asking.
Why should it be owned by two members instead of all the members?

You ought to have retained at least 50% of your members. But seriously, what worthy member would invest in a community that does not need them. Songfight doesn't need anyone except the adms. whereas a constitutionally formed community rotates it's membership through leadership roles.

I just think you're nuts. That's why I never took you seriously.

I suppose the owners of this site could sell ad space and call Song Fight a business.

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:37 pm

Billy's Little Trip wrote:

I suppose the owners of this site could sell ad space and call Song Fight a business.[/quote]

That's why they suck mud.

Mostess · Post by **Mostess** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:10 pm

Just for ha ha's...

This isn't a community. It has no members. It's barely even a forum.

Anyone can come in and submit a song and have it posted on the page and then change their pseudonym and do it again, or leave and never come back, or whatever. Seriously, whatever. There is no membership. It is all inclusive. That's not a community. It's an open pavillion.

People come and go. There can be no voting because there can be no voting registration. The "voting" on the main page is on the honor system entirely and is sometimes hijacked (for whatever reason). It would be impossible to transform this loose collection of websites as it currently exists into a functioning capitol of a functional democracy.

It would be possible to formalize a registration process, keep track of privileged "members" for voting, establishment of a quorum (an odd concept online, though), discussion procedures, "legislation" procedures, etc. Possible but bizarrely difficult. Which is why the main proponent of the idea has, after more than a year of occasionally lecturing us about it, been unable to offer a draft of such a "constitution". He can't. He's not smart enough, has nowhere near enough vision, and isn't personally involved in the goings-on here to care enough.

The activities generated by the "grass roots" in the Sidefights and Highlights thread are also all inclusive. And on IRC. And in PM's here. And in live events and informal gatherings. There have been 2 marriages through this site since I've been here. Every week for over 7 years, people have been using this resource to do interesting things and learn a lot about songwriting, performance, and music production. Which is the reason there is a lot of "apathy" around here.

Someone thinks it sucks mud, but obviously searches this bulletin board for "gripe" and "oust" frequently. Which is a fine way to spend your time, I suppose. Though I prefer songwriting.

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